Doing what ‘most’ people do will only get you what ‘most’ people have. This is true for anything in your life.
If you want to lose weight, you cannot use most people as a model to follow because most people aren’t losing weight. Same goes for financial success, satisfaction with your job or social life etc.
Most people don’t have the body they want, a career that excites them, or a social life that’s worth reading about. If you want any of these things, then you can’t do what most people do…you gotta do something different. And this is where it gets tricky.
Identifying what NOT to do is easy, figuring out what TO do isn’t so obvious. This is why supplements and weight loss products exist, and how to get rich quick products, as well as books about having successful relationships etc.
Simply reading about this stuff is never good enough. Eventually you’ve got to put something into action and test it out.
You have to become and experiment of one. And try things out until you find one that works. But until you give something…anything different a legitimate try you’ll never know if it works.
The first step to making a real change in any part of your life is accepting the fact that you’re probably going to have to do something that ‘most’ people aren’t doing. The second step is accepting some level of persecution for doing something different from everyone else. This will always happen because most people will feel threatened when someone steps out of the norm and tries something different.
This happens alot with Eat Stop Eat because it is so different from what most people are doing.
Even though ESE works, most people cannot accept something so different. They’ll continue doing what most people do and continue living the lives that most people live.
I guess the ESE’ers like us will just have to talk amongst ourselves because ‘most’ people don’t want to hear it.
It’ll be our little secret.
John
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February 27th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
John, i do a combination of the LeanGains aproach and ESE, i fast every day for 16 hours and two 24 hrs fast a week. On the weekend i increase my calories and eat more of the food i enjoy. And i have no problem losing weight like this. My question is, is ESE effective because of the increase in HGH and all that stuff, or simply because its a way of eating less?
February 27th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Mike,
Technically ESE is just a way to eat less. BUT from a practical stand point, it might be the only way to teach people to eat less and ENJOY the process…it is this second point that I believe makes ESE the best way to teach yourself to eat less.
Think about it the other way, I could put you in a detention center against your will and serve you just enough food that would cause you to lose weight and have a ripped set of abs, but what kind of life is that?
Weight loss is simply calories in vs out, but living an enjoyable life while maintaining low bodyfat is the key. And that is were ESE beats them all.
JB
February 27th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
I’m finally ready to be that “experiment of one.” After years of sitting on the sidelines contemplating different dietary philosophies, I’ve finally decided on one (calories in-out) and I’m forging ahead. It feels so good to have a purpose and a direction. And it’s such a relief to finally know what to do. But I guess we all know what to do, until we get confused by all the conflicting information.
February 27th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
I have been following ESE, but doing so whilst on an already calorie restricted diet. I’m 5’6″ and 150 lbs, male with a 1650cal bmr. I was aiming to eat 1300 per day with 2 ESE per week but fat loss seemed to grind to a crawl. Thing is I’ve never been so fit – can do 5 sets of the Crazy 8 bodyweight with 30 secs between circuits and finish in 35 mins.
Anyways, my point is this: Whilst I agree with the principal of fasting, I wonder whether or not it is a vitally important factor that you eat at maintainance most days excluding the two ESE days where you get the drastic reductions. I’m thinking ‘Leptin Levels’ and whether a prolonged ‘diet’ really does slow down fat loss.
February 27th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
By the way, its the last 8 lbs or so that doesn’t want to shift. Soft, sloppy watery flab! I would be about 6% bf without the damn stuff.
February 27th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Steve,
Rate of fat loss is really just determined by the amount you eat and far below BMR you go (coupled with any exercise). Indeed if you fasted for 10 days straight and did the same exercise routine for all 10 days then your fat loss would be the same for each day (as there would be nothing else for your body to burn).
Leptin is not a critical factor in determining fat loss rates, and even if it were (which it’s not) you can’t control it anyway.
JB
February 27th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Steve,
Try a 48 hour fast and see what happens. I’ll bet you’ll tighten up nicely by the end of it.
If you are going to try this just be warned, extended fasts such as 48 hours tend to sour people on fasting for a week or two. I’ve done an extended fast before and it really turned me off of fasting for a couple weeks. (this is also why I really like the 24 hr’s of ESE)
JB
February 27th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
John,
I have to say I have thoroughly enjoyed your blog for several months now. I hugely respect subject matter experts who cut through the b.s. and get down to simple truths. To me, you and Brad Pilon are like the Ockham’s Razors of the nutrition world. Keep it up!
-Lou
P.S. This post reminds me of Albert Einstein’s definition of insanity: “doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” Good stuff.
February 27th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Hi John, one concern I have with dieting plus eat stop eat is weight regain after my weight loss. Do you think losing too much fat to quickly will result in weight being put back on easily or is it just a case of needing to learn to eat less when you get you body fat as low as you want. I know you have addressed it to some extent saying that metabolim doesn’t slow down and speed up but if you can put it straight for me it would be appreciated.
Also how much weight training is neccasary to keep us from losing it when dieting, I’ve been weight lifting for a year now but enjoy it less and would rather do less to be honest, maybe use more body weight stuff instead of squat and the rest of it. Would that kind of thing be sufficent as long as I’m working hard?
Cheers
February 27th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
I’m in on the secret!
John: I’ve lost 11 lbs in the last 5 weeks. I hate the term diet. If you are just eating less to lose weight and don’t intend on watching what you eat afterwards, it’s all coming back. I’ve done that tons. That why I love ESE. I’d rather refer to it as a healthy lifestyle.
I’ve been eating less since July 2009 and just started ESE 5 weeks ago. I started at 240 and am now down to 190. I’ve got about 20 lbs to go. Just bought Adonis Index yesterday and am starting on Monday. Gonna try to obliterate this last 20 in the next 3-6 months.
February 28th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Dan,
Congrats on your progress. You should enter our Adonis Effect transformation contest. It starts tomorrow. We’re doing a coaching teleseminar on it tomorrow at noon (if you can’t listen live there will be a replay of the seminar)
JB
February 28th, 2010 at 9:36 am
John,
As long as you’re pushing hard I think 2-3 weight training sessions per week should be able to maintain the muscle you currently have.
You shouldn’t regain any weight as long as you don’t go back to eating the way you used to that caused you to gain all the weight in the first place. If you can learn to eat at maintenance then you’ll be fine and you wont regain.
JB
March 1st, 2010 at 12:41 pm
John, you wouldn’t believe the level of persecution and backlash I’ve gotten when friends hear I was doing ESE, they react as if either a.) I’m going to die, or b.) I’m an idiot and/or crazy
March 1st, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Anthony,
It’s a bit crazy and totally irrational. I’m actually going to get a physical done next monday, I”m gonna get all of my data and post it on here. That is just about all I can do to prove that it’s a healthy and sustainable lifestyle. You should try the same.
BTW, Pilon, Howard and I are coming to gainesville in september for a football game (most likely the Kentucky game on the 25th)…are you up for crushing a few beers with us (and by few I mean about 20)
JB
March 1st, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Anthony,
Then don’t tell anyone until AFTER you’re done
John,
From what I’ve seen, the reason people “rebound” after “crash diets”
isn’t because of the diet itself, but because the person goes back to eating the exact same way they were before!
In other words, they never got a handle on what their true maintenance levels are…
This is what no one talks about.
It’s easy to BLAME a diet and act like people can’t think for themselves.
B
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:15 am
Yeah bro, hit me up when you guys come down here… Though now the pressure’s on to all have our AI’s in top form…