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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://johnbarban.com/counting-calories-for-weight-loss-overestimate-to-be-sure/#comment-1888</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, when does it start to decrease? I&#039;ve seen people say if your 21, maybe big eating would still help. I am 23, almost 24 and google was no help in this question. I&#039;ve only been training for a year, and haven&#039;t seen much results (this is not from your program). I am stronger but don&#039;t look it, maybe I&#039;m carrying too much fat. Does this mean that I won&#039;t experience the burst of muscle growth that occurs when you first start working out? 

Yeah, when I was 167, I was still coming down from 273, so it was probably my lack of muscle mass from losing that much weight, and I wasn&#039;t weight training at the time so I probably did lose some muscle in the process.

I am in the process of getting as lean as possible so I don&#039;t need to cut down after. 
Also, can you address my question about pre/post workout nutrition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, when does it start to decrease? I&#8217;ve seen people say if your 21, maybe big eating would still help. I am 23, almost 24 and google was no help in this question. I&#8217;ve only been training for a year, and haven&#8217;t seen much results (this is not from your program). I am stronger but don&#8217;t look it, maybe I&#8217;m carrying too much fat. Does this mean that I won&#8217;t experience the burst of muscle growth that occurs when you first start working out? </p>
<p>Yeah, when I was 167, I was still coming down from 273, so it was probably my lack of muscle mass from losing that much weight, and I wasn&#8217;t weight training at the time so I probably did lose some muscle in the process.</p>
<p>I am in the process of getting as lean as possible so I don&#8217;t need to cut down after.<br />
Also, can you address my question about pre/post workout nutrition?</p>
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		<title>By: johnbarban</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

I think there is a general formula for weight vs how lean you look. Part of your weight and look will be determined by your muscle mass (which is dependent on how many years you&#039;ve been training and the style of your workouts)...also remember that half of your total muscle mass is in your legs, so if you haven&#039;t trained your legs seriously then you&#039;ll end up being lighter than you probably expect.

With all of that said any formula we come up with will never be 100% accurate as a predictor. If you can&#039;t see your abs yet, then it&#039;s clear that you need to drop more fat. I suggest forgetting about bodyweight numbers for now.

re: Juvenile muscle. Are you asking about the time juvenile muscle &#039;growth&#039; starts to decrease? 

JB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>I think there is a general formula for weight vs how lean you look. Part of your weight and look will be determined by your muscle mass (which is dependent on how many years you&#8217;ve been training and the style of your workouts)&#8230;also remember that half of your total muscle mass is in your legs, so if you haven&#8217;t trained your legs seriously then you&#8217;ll end up being lighter than you probably expect.</p>
<p>With all of that said any formula we come up with will never be 100% accurate as a predictor. If you can&#8217;t see your abs yet, then it&#8217;s clear that you need to drop more fat. I suggest forgetting about bodyweight numbers for now.</p>
<p>re: Juvenile muscle. Are you asking about the time juvenile muscle &#8216;growth&#8217; starts to decrease? </p>
<p>JB</p>
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		<title>By: johnbarban</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad,

It takes time but yes I think most guys can get very close if not right on their ideal shoulder size. But it definitely doesn&#039;t happen overnight. We&#039;re talking about quite a bit of muscle.

JB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,</p>
<p>It takes time but yes I think most guys can get very close if not right on their ideal shoulder size. But it definitely doesn&#8217;t happen overnight. We&#8217;re talking about quite a bit of muscle.</p>
<p>JB</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi I don&#039;t know how else to get to you but I was wondering, before I actually purchase the Adonis Effect, is it possible for Everyone to reach the golden ratio for their height? For example, I&#039;m at 1.78m height and my waist is 83cm, however my chest is at 118cm and I have been training by lifting heavy weights - deadlifts, squats, bench presses, breaking for 2 months a stretch for exams each semester in college. While I am not concerned too much about reaching the ideal waist size, I&#039;m just wondering if it is actually ever possible for me to reach the Ideal shoulder circumference of 128cm because it seems quite a stretch to me, especially after listening to a few of your podcasts stressing on the fact that there is a genetic limit to muscle hypertrophy.  I would say I am more of an ectomorph but I&#039;m not too sure anymore when I ballooned 2 years ago at the age of 22 (and I have never exercised in my life before this time). I lost a lot of fat through cutting n weight lifting the past year but because I was working out my weight has remained more or less at 76kg. I am seriously intending to switch to your program but I need to know what to realistically expect.

Thanks for your blog and the podcasts at the Adonis Effect, I must say you remind me a lot of a lecturer who was an exercise/muscle physiologist when I was in 1st year med school. :)

PS: Sorry for hijacking your topic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I don&#8217;t know how else to get to you but I was wondering, before I actually purchase the Adonis Effect, is it possible for Everyone to reach the golden ratio for their height? For example, I&#8217;m at 1.78m height and my waist is 83cm, however my chest is at 118cm and I have been training by lifting heavy weights &#8211; deadlifts, squats, bench presses, breaking for 2 months a stretch for exams each semester in college. While I am not concerned too much about reaching the ideal waist size, I&#8217;m just wondering if it is actually ever possible for me to reach the Ideal shoulder circumference of 128cm because it seems quite a stretch to me, especially after listening to a few of your podcasts stressing on the fact that there is a genetic limit to muscle hypertrophy.  I would say I am more of an ectomorph but I&#8217;m not too sure anymore when I ballooned 2 years ago at the age of 22 (and I have never exercised in my life before this time). I lost a lot of fat through cutting n weight lifting the past year but because I was working out my weight has remained more or less at 76kg. I am seriously intending to switch to your program but I need to know what to realistically expect.</p>
<p>Thanks for your blog and the podcasts at the Adonis Effect, I must say you remind me a lot of a lecturer who was an exercise/muscle physiologist when I was in 1st year med school. <img src='http://johnbarban.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>PS: Sorry for hijacking your topic!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 02:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I was wondering how you feel about post/pre workout nutrition. 

Also when does juvenile muscle start to decrease? 

One last question, I am currently losing weight using ESE, and wonder if there’s a specific formula to how low my weight will have to be to see my abs etc. I am 6?2, 184 lbs and not there yet. I know in podcasts you said 5&#039;9 people had to be in 160s. I&#039;ve been 167 and never saw my abs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I was wondering how you feel about post/pre workout nutrition. </p>
<p>Also when does juvenile muscle start to decrease? </p>
<p>One last question, I am currently losing weight using ESE, and wonder if there’s a specific formula to how low my weight will have to be to see my abs etc. I am 6?2, 184 lbs and not there yet. I know in podcasts you said 5&#8217;9 people had to be in 160s. I&#8217;ve been 167 and never saw my abs.</p>
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